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Hello, my friends

Got myself a Laelia anceps and I'm wondering if I can grow it outside.
My winter goes from 5 ºC min (ocasionally bellow freezing) to 12 ºC max. HR varies from 100 (rainy days) to 50%.
I'm planning to put it on a south faced balcony with direct sunlight for a few hrs (from 12:00 to 15:00 (in winter. In summer I can get much more)

Does anybody here grow them outside? Under which conditions in winter?

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I don't know your climate well enough to really comment, but I shouldn't think it would tolerate any frost, even for a night.

Anyone else got any input?

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I pkan to protect it from the occasional frosts.
My climate is mediterranean, hardiness 10a.


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For my money 5C in winter outside is too cold for this plant I would want to keep it above 10C at the very least.

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Probably the best bet is to dig out some climatic data for the areas it comes from and see how it compares to your own climate.

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Altough some growers say that they can tolerate brief temp drops to the 0 ºC (32 F) I see in Mexico the avg temps are higher, especially the max temp.
By other hand, the rainy season here is coincident with the some of the coldest months which could lead to rot.


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Definitely tough enough to grow at 5C in the winter, mine (see my previous post) is kept at that temperature. However it likes only light watering in winter, so I think you will have to protect it from wet weather


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When I say 5 ºC it's night temp and happens only in a few days, the average is around 8ºC.
It is also usual to have min around 0 ºC but only occasionally.


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I bought an anceps with the intention of keeping it in my 5 degree minimum greenhouse. I just never got around to putting it out there :/

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I bought an anceps with the intention of keeping it in my 5 degree minimum greenhouse. I just never got around to putting it out there :/


I believe the key here is a correct acclimatization. Done properly and the plant gets hardier.


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That species is certainly reputed to be one of the toughest of the genus. I'd say you're right with acclimatisation, and as someone above said, its probably as important to protect it from the wet as it is from the cold. Buy two plants so you can spoil one indoors and let the other rough it outside!

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Acclimatisation is definitely important, I moved mine from the windowsill to the greenhouse in late spring to allow the plant as much time to get used to the cool as possible before winter. Old pseudobulbs sprout new growth easily, so you could remove a backup bulb as insurance


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Old pseudobulbs sprout new growth easily, so you could remove a backup bulb as insurance


That's a good idea.
My climate doesn't allow a long acclimatisation period 'cause lower temps take a month or a llittle longer to drop to average winter values.


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Why not wait till it's warmer say late spraing then it will have all Sumer Autumn to acclimatise, maybe keep a little frost proof fleecing at hand to in case you need to keep the plant dry


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