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So not all my cool growing Orchids are giving me hassle! The Masdevallia Measuresianna seems to be growing away quite happily and has plenty of New Growth which is making me happy (of course).

Not what I want to ask is what does a spike actually look like in this Genus?
I understand from what I have been reading that the spike will grow from the base of the plant.
So I would also like to ask if the smaller growth in the picture below is a potential spike?
I know the larger one is definitely leaf ;) but the other one does seem to be growing from the base of an older leaf.

If it's not, never mind but if anyone could share a picture of a new spike in this Genus that would be awesome as it would certainly help me :)

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Oh Dear Michele, looks like you are the only person growing a Measuresianna ?

I can't help much here having only 2 Massies but I got the impression that most new Masdevallia spikes are a lot finer and more delicate than the new leaf growth....but could be wrong? :? ...also spikes being more pointed & rounded whereas yours looks a bit wide & flat ?

In this case I hope I am totaly wrong and that is the start of a new flower :D

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It looks like you have a lovely new leaf coming.
I no longer grow these but bassically the flower spike grows up from in front of yhe leaf normally very thin then about and inch or up u will notice there will be a bud but that dowe vary from plant to plant



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stevek wrote:
Oh Dear Michele, looks like you are the only person growing a Measuresianna ?

If you tell me you got it at the same time as the Porroglossum I think I will just start giggling and the potential for such coincidence ;)

Thank you both for replying, I believe I now have a much clearer idea of what to look out for!
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I got the impression that most new Masdevallia spikes are a lot finer and more delicate than the new leaf growth....but could be wrong? :? ...also spikes being more pointed & rounded whereas yours looks a bit wide & flat ?

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It looks like you have a lovely new leaf coming.
I no longer grow these but bassically the flower spike grows up from in front of yhe leaf normally very thin then about and inch or up u will notice there will be a bud but that dowe vary from plant to plant


From this expanded information I think I understand much better what to look out for! Which is awesome.
Spikes are thinner and finer as well as more pointed in shape, also grow from the front of the leaf.

So, may I presume they should form from near the crease of the leaf, near where the leaf extends from its sheath?

(Not disappointed - It's growing and that's good! :D )


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Yes you got it the longer spiked one like veichii come mainly from the base of a new leaf. And the likes of the shorts one are the same. When I looked after the cool house at the RHS I noticed it a lot more.
But only take off flower spike once they go brown as some will reflower from old spikes.
Very rewarding plants to grow. I've always grown then in mixe of small bark perlight and sphag, always found that mixed dired out enough but never dried complety to loose roots.



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blondie wrote:
Yes you got it the longer spiked one like veichii come mainly from the base of a new leaf.

Agree with Chris, all new growth (leaf or spike) from the base of the plant.

Attached a photo because luckily there happens to be 3 growths, all together at the varying stages to note the difference.

1. is a new leaf, starts off as a fine tip but very quickly broadens and flattens
2. is the stem of a mature spike (there is a flower on top of that!), you can see that is much narrower and more cylindrical than the leaf.
3. is a new spike and compared to the new leaf, the difference is more noticeable here.

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That is brilliant clarification, thank you both so much!

Blondie,
Thanks for the tips!
I had read that this one has a habit of re-flowering from old spikes, but knowing when to actually cut back is always good :)
It may actually be due for a re-pot this year (I have read this should be done after growing has stopped or at least slowed and before the plant starts up again?), it seems to be something very similar if not the same.

Steve,
Thank you for posting that picture with numbers! :) That makes things very clear, and actually confirms what I was visualizing from what you both described!


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