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I was hoping that this year I may be able to show my first ever identifiable Orchid at the NEOS show on the 9th of July. However, my little Neof. falcata has decided to bloom a little earlier this year. Last year it bloomed twice with single spikes, but there was a clear week to 2 that it had no blooms. This year it has four spikes which all seem to be progressing nicely together. By my reckoning it should be in full bloom between the 22nd to 25th of June (yes I am that sad and made a photo record of spike growth time last year), which means with an expected bloom time of 2 weeks the flowers may be dying by the time the show comes round. I could be wrong, I hope I'm wrong, but will have to wait and see!

I think I need to invest in more orchids that have a bloom time exceeding 2 weeks!... And just generally get more orchids!

In the photo you can make out two of the spikes. Here's hoping that it will bloom a little later than I expect. I am happy with how it is progressing generally, though any hints, tips and general advice are always welcome.

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Humidity inside tank usually averages between 60-80%. Max observed 90%+, minimum observed 50%.
Fed from around the beginning of Spring to end of Autumn, 1/4-1/2 strength weekly.
Mount is removed from tank for feeding and general watering.
Tank is usually cleaned about every 6-8 weeks.


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Just one of those things Michele which happens to all of us. Our best plants take great delight in flowering at the worst times and can't be counted on to flower when needed --------I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and your Neo.

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Thanks Ed, :) It's going to be a close call!

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Our best plants take great delight in flowering at the worst times and can't be counted on to flower when needed

That statement sums it up perfectly :lol:


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Things are progressing nicely and there should be a slight stagger on the spikes coming into bloom by the looks of things. Still not expecting it to be viable for the show, but really happy it doubled it blooms from last year.
Will likely have to look into suspending the mount after the blooms has finished as the roots progress down the 3 legs. To account for this I started strategically misting and watering, trying to deter the roots from one of the three legs, so that that leg can be used as the suspension end. This tactic has seemed to have worked quite nicely, you can just about make out the dry leg in the bottom right of the photo, and how the roots are beginning to curl round it rather than simply down.
Photo is also of other side of the plant to the one shown in the first picture.


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Wow that is going to look beautiful...well, it already is!

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Thanks Jen :)
I don't really have a favourite Orchid but would say currently this one is the best in my small collection. Was quite lucky to find that piece of Maponi, haven't seen a legged piece since.



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Looks wonderful. Bit of a noob question, do you just keep it in the square glass vase or do you keep a canopy of some description over it too?

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Thank you Bex.
It's a small fish tank, 20.5cm H x 20cm D x 30.5 W. No canopy to speak of, though if I am away for a few days I would put cling film round the corners to keep the moisture in. The top of the mount itself, on it's stone stands, is about 1-2 inches below the top of the tank and the leafs now hang over the edges. About 1/2 to 1 inch worth of gravel in the base which always has water present.

This is not the only way to keep Neos, but it works for me - I was inspired after seeing pictures of Neos en mas on large pieces of wood, unfortunately can not relocate those images at this time. Many people will grow in the traditional Japanese style of a moss ball and pot which usually needs less attention water wise than mounting.
Examples of potted Neos from this forum.
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They are beautiful little Orchids and well worth having in a collection. When they bloom the scent is just wonderful, and when not in bloom they are still very attractive!


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Michele V wrote:
Was quite lucky to find that piece of Maponi, haven't seen a legged piece since.

A very nice looking plant Michele with the promise of a good flowering.
Every collection should have at least one Neofinetia.....(but then I'm biased.)
I had an accident with mine involving a drill getting caught up in its media, and getting mashed up but its managed (surprisingly) to pull through and has produced one solitary bud which I'm very relieved to see after its earlier experience, aiming for it to look like yours next year :roll: ?

Have you tried Pet Shops/Aquarists/Pets at Home for Mopani or interestng pieces of driftwood ?

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Thanks Steve
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Every collection should have at least one Neofinetia.....(but then I'm biased.)

Not biased, just aware of the joy of this orchid. At least one is right, would like one day to get a variegated form or two or three.... ;)

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I had an accident with mine involving a drill getting caught up in its media, and getting mashed up but its managed (surprisingly) to pull through and has produced one solitary bud which I'm very relieved to see after its earlier experience, aiming for it to look like yours next year :roll: ?


Yeah, can imagine. I was getting concerned over a drill hole when reading just how dense a wood Maponi is, started envisaging it going into a mental spin or being flung - definitely getting a helping hand if I do drill it. Though, I think I'll stick with the back up plan of wrapped wire, the dry leg has a spur which should make it possible to hang without drilling.

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Have you tried Pet Shops/Aquarists/Pets at Home for Mopani or interestng pieces of driftwood ?

Oh yes :handgestures-thumbupright: I do keep my eye out whenever I go to places like that, I just seem to be unlucky and get there after all the good sized & interesting pieces have gone. Surprisingly the two pieces of Maponi I have bought (both interesting shape wise, including the legged one above) I purchased from of all places Dunelm for £1.50 a pop! :shock: Never seen them that cheap anywhere else. So would add Dunelm to the list above - but they're not always supplied and the price may have gone up since then. Yet, even if they've tripled in price it would still be very reasonable for the pieces I got.


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I have a tank the same sort of size (from my betta who passed away), I have mopani, unfortunately a search online revealed not much joy in the sourcing department, but it is definitely on the list! thank-you michelle :)

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You're welcome Bex, I hope it all goes well for you! :)
Keep an eye on the Burnham and Ray Creek websites, I know that they both have supplied Neofinetia falcata before and keep their sites updated. So there may not be any in this month, but maybe the next. Also don't be afraid to contact a Nursery if there is a specific plant you would like, they may be willing to order one in for you or reserve a plant not yet ready for sale.
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I've used Ray for all but 2 of my orchids. so may just send him a message when the time is right. Once my present little lot all look happy and thriving!

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First spike open, started opening on Saturday. By the end of this week I think it will be in full display.
Have read some contradicting information on the how long these orchids flowers for, some say a couple of weeks others up to a couple of months :shock: From what I can work out the longer time may be connected to the plants grown and bred specifically to produce better versions. If I am completely wrong please feel free to correct me! :D


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Flowering period is probably just a function of how many spikes there are on the plant. Mine is about 14 or 15 years old and now has about as many individual shoots, and the flowers tend to come out over a long period, with some flowers going over whilst other spikes are still in bud. Interestingly mine opened its first flowers about the same time as yours, perhaps that is a day length thing?



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Thanks WilECoyote,
Hadn't thought of it like that, makes a lot of sense :) Bet yours will look wonderful, hope I can keep mine alive and healthy for that long!

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Interestingly mine opened its first flowers about the same time as yours, perhaps that is a day length thing?

Sounds very likely, and how cool! Now wondering if people further South see their Blooms earlier!? :lol:



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Opened in full yesterday. :)


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Beautiful. Mine has about half a dozen flowers still to open, and a couple going over.


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Thank you :)
Is it the one pictured in this thread? viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9333
Gorgeous by the way, like the pink/purple tones of yours. Is it a specific cultivar or did you just luck out on natural variation? :)


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Nicely bloomed Michele. Hope it lasts for a couple of weeks.

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