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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:23 pm 
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I inspected my pots of Ophrys and other European terrestrials today, to work out why some had not come up this year.

Sadly, these plants are vanished, never having made it into successfully into dormancy last spring by the look of it. No dead bulbs to speak of, just... nothing:

Ophrys aesculapii
Ophrys attica
Ophrys leochroma
Orchis italica
Anacamptis laxiflora
Aceras anthropophora

The aesculapii was one of my prize and favourite plants, with many growths too :( (Image archive photos here)

At the moment my Ophrys phrygia looks distinctly weedy which may also be a sign that it intends to rot in shoot and depart this earth.

Damn.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Very Sad to hear that Rob, I've had many a good plant disappear into nothing myself.
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That is sad. Any idea why?


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(I was having a vent)

As for why, I don't really know. Tubers can rot as they form, or fail to form, or rot away after they form for a few reasons..... you don't water quite enough early in the season; or the plants get going poorly and take a long time to leaf up fully and waste their energies; it's too dark while the plants to build new tubers; you get the drying off wrong in spring; in spring it gets hot too quickly and the plants die back without building reserves; the plants stay too moist too late and the tuber rots; the wrong planet is ascending in Virgo; or Quetzalcoatl was displeased with the human sacrifices. It's hard to know sometimes.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:14 am 
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It's good to see that your sense of humour is shining through the adversity :jumpy:

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Rob, I had this problem a few years ago, and it gave me some sleepless nights. But then I remembered, that back in the early days of learning to grow orchids, they used unfired clay pots and used to fill these pots up about half way with broken pot material for air and drainage when growing tubers. So this is our standard protocol now in the green house, so far we have lost none, we still take in account light, air, temp, a dry spell, but this seems to have help us immensely.

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