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PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:48 am 
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Hi,

I have a Potinara Haw Yuan Gold, and a Myrmetonia Keith Gooden. Can these two orchids be crossed into an exciting, new hybrid?

In fact, since both are blooming right now, I used the moment and attempted a cross-pollination.

Advices welcome.

Or, at least, where can I find out if these two are compatible?

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Sven, first are you sure of your plant's name? Could it be Myrmecocattleya Keith Goldson rather than Gooden? If it is Keith Goldson then I can see no reason why it should not cross happily with the cattleya alliance plants (but I am not a botanist).

Myrmecocattleya Keith Goldson is itself a cross between Myrmecophila tibicinis and a cattleya so crossing it with a Potinara should not be a problem. As far as I can see it has already been crossed successfully with Cattleya lueddmanniana and C. violacea.

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Wow, what a good answer! Where did you get that information from? Please let me know. Thanks a lot!

And yes, you might be right about the name, I just couldn't read the label correctly.

Do you have photos of those crossings?

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Wow, what a good answer! Where did you get that information from? Please let me know. Thanks a lot!

And yes, you might be right about the name, I just couldn't read the label correctly.

Do you have photos of those crossings?


Sven all of the info came from the RHS International Orchid Register Site:-

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/horticulturaldatabase/orchidregister/orchidregister.asp

There are two search tabs you can use, Parentage search and Grex search. I put Keith Gooden into the grex box of the grex name search tab (I did bother with anything in the genus box) and got no hits. So I put just Keith into the same box and got 3 pages of hits. Scrolling through these I found Myrmecocattleya Keith Goldson, so I thought that this could be your plant.

To find if it had any offspring I went to the 'Parentage' tab and put Keith Goldson in the grex box of the seed parent box. Again I did not bother with the genus. I got two hits Myc. Caribbean Legacy and Jose's Glow. This showed that KG was the seed parent of these two plants.

Putting Keith Goldson into the 'Pollen Parent' box then gave no hits so it has not been used as a pollen parent, or if it has the cross is not registered. I don't have pics but now you know the names of the crosses you can go hunting :D

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Hmm, I just checked the label. It says Myrmetonia Keith Goldson. So, Keith Goldson is correct, but the genus name is still different. I bought the orchid from Mr. Claude Hamilton (a famous name in the orchid society.

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Sven, many genus names have been changed recently so I would not put much faith in them. Your Potinara Haw Yuan Gold, for instance, is now Rhyncholaellocattleya Haw Yuan Gold. According to the RHS site there is only one orchid registered as Keith Goldson so your plant must be that one.

Also this plant was bred by and registered to Claude Hamilton in 2001. Not any doubt in my mind.

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Wow, that answer explains me the situation. Thank you.

The funny thing is, that Mr. Claude Hamilton lives only a few blocks away from me. I am going to rename the labels. Both of them.

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