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I came across this in my research but can't substantiate it, as reliable.

Banillia, used instead of Vanilla, from ( BANINGHAM, a village in Norfolkshire, near Erpingham, 1816) this is all I found in a very short passage. It could be the spelling reflects the local dialect, this is what I suspect.


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Hi Kenneth,

I've never heard of the word but did a quick Google (as I'm sure you did) but didn't come up with anything definite apart from 3 entries all suggesting banilla is a mix of bananas and vanilla?:

This is a quote for Banilla E-Liquid:
"A masterful mix highlighting the natural sweetness of Brazilian banana with Madagascar vanilla bean."

This is a quote from The Cannabis Kitchen :shock:
"One of my favorite snacks used to be vanilla yogurt with blended bananas (banillia yogurt )"

This is a quote from an organic website, it doesn't mention Vanilla but their product shows a Vanilla flower on the pot (attached link):
"Lowfat Banilla: We get organic bananas from Costa Rican farmers who take care of the earth and their communities."
http://www.stonyfield.com/products/yogu ... nilla-32oz

So guessing it could be this mix except it is not used instead of vanilla (as you have said) but as well as vanilla ?

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stevek wrote:

Steve

PS: Have you noticed it's started to snow ? :?


Yes I had noticed Steve but more importantly I noticed that you have given a quote from The Cannabis Kitchen :lol:

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I noticed that you have given a quote from The Cannabis Kitchen :lol:

It was the one of the very few "Hits" I could get on Banilla...........Honest ! :oops:

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It was reported in a medicinal medical dictionary in 1816, but I haven't been able to get a copy of the page.

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These names for vanilla are what, I have found in my research, most have Spanish influence, one has French, one suggest English, the others I am still working on.

Banillia
Vainilla
Vainillas
Vanilla
Vanillas
Vanille
Vanillia
Vanillo
Vanilloes

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Keep going Kenneth, that's a lot of words for vanilla !

When you say "Banillia, used instead of Vanilla", do you mean just the word Banillia was used instead of vanilla, or that Banillia was something which was used to substitute vanilla in practise?

:? I wonder if there are many early 19thc Cook books out there with a load of recipes containing vanilla/banillia ?

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Keep going Kenneth, that's a lot of words for vanilla !

When you say "Banillia, used instead of Vanilla", do you mean just the word Banillia was used instead of vanilla, or that Banillia was something which was used to substitute vanilla in practise?

:? I wonder if there are many early 19thc Cook books out there with a load of recipes containing vanilla/banillia ?

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Just the word was used, instead of the word vanilla. I am inclined to believe it was spelled the way it was pronounced in the early 1800's. I was hoping that it was just the way the local of that area spoke or pronounced the letter V as B or used the written B for V.
Much like the Spaniards early writings used the letter S instead of F.
I am interested in finding the passage that was printed, in the medical dictionary, that made this reference printed 1800's.

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Kenneth this is just a suggestion :lol: Did you find Banilla in an original text or on a modern copy of an original. I ask only as V and B are next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard and typos are a possibility.

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In original text, Terry

I have been trying to locate the original text to see it in it's entirely, and be able to cite it correctly in my book.

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